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The replays and the real time

 
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Jean-Luc
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010 13:27    Post subject: The replays and the real time Reply with quote

Does somebody know if there is a simple relationship between
1/ the time indicated on the interface when sailing
2/ the time given by the editor when one watchs the replay ?
TY in advance !
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010 15:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry J-L - I have thought about this but never looked to see if there is always the same relationship.

Since there can be differences in the finishing times, as shown in the results files of different players, I would think that the replays of different players in the game would not be identical anyway. Certainly the situations that are examined for Jury decisions can look different in each player's replay, so I think it is unlikely that there will be a simple solution to this.
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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010 22:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once I was in an interclub event and my replay showed two boats colliding. When other replays were viewed the incident was close but there was no collision. Sorry but not all replays are exactly the same Triste
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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2010 15:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

There would be an objective reason for the different time references. Maybe they could raise from the different times at which the skippers join the server ? Another assumption is that the shifts are due to the time at which the skippers save their own replay, the software would have an internal process to set the time scale. Lol, still a mystery...

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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010 12:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me wonder if we are all playing the game at very slightly different times, as seen when someone has lag, sometimes you see a boat start to tack and then jump back on course as though the program is predicting its moves, also if you have seen it when a host computer crashes, all your opponents sail off on different courses but you seem in perfect control for a while?

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PostPosted: 02 Nov 2010 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
I wonder what this discussion is about?

Imo it is very clear that there is - of course - always a difference between the replays, because every skipper has a different PC, bandwidth and the ping i.e. is different from Europe to Australia etc.
Also in Europe i.e. with a server (Host) in Germany and participants in Italy/France you will always have (although small) ms- time differences.
Very often situation are looking equal in some situations, but it can happen sometimes, that these small difference in distances, positions of boats have an effect .

In Events (i.e. on www.VSKFun.com) a protesting skipper has always to post his replay and on the other hand, every protestee (acc. Sailing Instructions for VSK Amendments) is asked to post his replay as well as a defense.

A Jury will discuss the incident always based on both replays (which are always different). And a skipper - of course - can only act acc. to the situation he can see on his own PC during the race (hence in his replay after the race).

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On the other hand, the question might be very simple to answer, if he is asking for the difference i.e. in a match race:
the starting time when the boats cross the line during the race will be at 00:00, while the replay will show 8:00min when the skippers cross the line, because the complete Replay will have a time code from 0:00 to 25:00, while the race itself will start with i.e. -8:00.

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Liese

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8 Protests and Requests for Redress
8.2 The protestee may answer in the protest thread and
give his description of the situation as well as his
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PostPosted: 02 Nov 2010 16:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original post was about the shift between the time that a screenshot would show on a given incident and those given by the editor in watching the same incident.

What you wrote leads to the conclusion that the shift equals the prestart duration (usually 3 mins, but it could be 8 as well zero according to what the Host had choosen) + the time delay that the skipper took to cross the line after the start gun. That is a good hint and clearly explains all the affair, TY Sourire))
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